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Racing Topics => 12th Scale Racing => Topic started by: snap2 on September 01, 2005, 06:17:39 PM
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Hey all,
For those of us who are on the lookout for a new place to race this winter, could someone give some input on what would make a good choice of facility. You know, size, surface, power requirements, cost budget etc.
I've never run 12th scale, and never seen the track (other than pics), but I'm looking forward to getting into it this year and would like to help out finding a new place to run.
Damon
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Size
The track itself is 36 x 72. We need extra area for a large scaffold drivers stand and room for corner marshals around the outside. The driverstand is 4 feet wide or so and we like to put it back of the edge of the track another 4 feet or so at least. The computer table needs to be beside the track and needs another 6-8 feet, so all told we need at least 40-45 x 80-85. This area cant have any posts in the way or at least 75 x 36 with no posts.
Surface
We cant really lay carpet on top of anything too soft (like other carpet), we need flat, smooth and hard. (and clean indoor racing in Saanich is way dirtier than outdoors in colwood, damn dogs!)
Power
we need AC power access, and good lighting.
Storage
This is paramount and we need to store the carpet and boards which amounts to a dolly of goods 4 feet high, 4-5 feet wide and 12 feet long.
We could get away with no storage if we can leave the track setup 100% of the time!!!!! More or less we need enough room to park a long compact car worth of track stuff.
Time
We need a 6-8 hour time slot on Saturday afternoon-evening-night.
Price
400-800 bucks a month if we can race 4 times a week.
(I personally think we can afford more through entry fees if we find a super kick-ass venue that allows us to race everyweek in the time slot we want) if we had 25 people every week, charged 15 bucks and raced every week (25x15x4) we could theoretically spend 1500 bucks although we wouldnt bank anything for other costs.
Some may argue we need more or less of this and that but the details above will get you in the ball-park.
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All Jody's measurements are in feet.
We would also need some pit space area outside of the 45' X 85' "track" area. Our current pit space at the Saanich Fairgrounds is a little cramped. It's about 30' x 15' and can just barely accommodate 25-30 racers.
A heated area would be nice too. The fairgrounds has heat in the pit area but not out in the track area.
Blake
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4 times a week would be great but I believe Jody meant to say 4 times a month :)
Mick
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LOL, I subconciously did mean 4-times a week!! hehehe. The wife wouldnt like that too much.
Yes 4 times a month would be OK I guess. Although if we had a permanent place I would practice at least one other night.
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On-site storage is not a requirement if we have a sufficient trailer.
We have had several storage solutions in the past.
1) On-site. This is obviously the coolest.
2) Container in the parking lot. We've rented a shipping container and stuck it in the parking lot, and just carried everything to the shipping container that we then locked.
3) Trailer. We've had a trailer in the past that we've loaded everything into, similar to the current outdoor arrangement. If we were to do this route again, we would need to ensure we had a sufficiently large trailer; it'd have to be a 14' job to hold the carpet.
There may be other options available; this is just a list of what we have done in the past.
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:lol: Hi, just to let you know I started to call a few different places for quotes on 12 scale winter racing. (This is Cody's Mom, Laurie). Here is what I have come up with so far:
JdF Banquet Room (somebody called a couple days ago from IROCC) $262.50 and not available every Sat., not available Sundays.
Sooke SeaParc Rec Centre 642-8000 (waiting to hear back from Dan)
:P Sooke Pent. Church 642-4822 $DONATION....! Will ask the Church Board if available Sat for us to use. Suggested a few from the club go see Church and see if suitable area. Has 1 pillar in middle of room so not sure if feasible but price looks right! Room fits 100 chairs now and chairs may have to be moved sometimes.
:P Sooke Baptist Church 642-3424 left a message today, apparently they have a large open Santuary with no pillars so this one might be a good location.
Juan de Fuca Church 642-6661 left a message today.
Knox Church (Sooke) 642-4124 had a large lower room and was only suggested donation of $10.00 hourly but nothing available... :cry:
I work for Sooke School District - Poirier Elementary School, and was a Journey and EMCS before that so I was also thinking of calling a few schools for Gym quotes. It would probably be cheaper to race on a Friday evening in the schools with a custodian already on staff as I think they work approx. 3-11pm. ??? Just a suggestion. Another idea I thought of are empty schools... if they rent the Gym's out?
Anyways I just thought I would let people know I called a few places and think a Church would probably be the cheapest way to go but don't want to be stepping on somebody's toes if somebody is already calling about this. Call me at 642-5844 if somebody is already calling and at least you know of the places I have called today. Thanks Laurie.
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I have a possible location as well at Beaver Lake school which is no longer being used as a school. We would have about 2/3 of the whole gym and there are several class rooms we can use for piting and/or storage as well as the stage. I will investigate tomorow.
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Hey all,
Heres what I've got from Saanich so far:
Pearkes has Saturday nights available in their Field House, most nights anyway. I haven't been to see it yet, but we used last year for my daughter's b-day. The kids were racing bigwheels in there any getting into some fast and scary cornering, anyway, the room is big and bright, has good flooring, a smoke pit, power and heated of course. I don't know about storage and it itsn't cheap, $36 per hour or about a $1000 per month. Heres the schedule they sent me:
http://www.lenargroup.com/images/Fieldhouse.pdf
I have an appointment to see them Friday.
Gordon Head has some Saturdays, but they close at 8pm. Allday Sundays are available though and I will see them later this week too. They run about $30 per hour.
Commonwealth runs $31 an hour, has a good room, but I haven't got a schedule yet and Cedar Hill hasn't got back to me.
The question is, is this overbudget? If not, I will be getting more info anyway and I'll let you know... and will Sundays work for racing?
I like the idea of contacting the schools Laurie and Kurk! I think you should look into it. Will Fridays work for us too?
Damon
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I think we need access until midnight. I think we are fairly set on Saturday nights - Fridays are too uncertain for people and we want to maximize our turn out to keep our entry fees as low as possible. The best option is to have every Saturday available to us. I think we axed the Fairgrounds since we can only get 12 days total out of them...
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no that is not over budget, keep up the good work. We have some schoolboard leads now too, all about the same price as you are talking about.
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Wow, awesome work everyone! I had no idea that so many people were on this! Follow up on the leads, and keep posting here.
As Jody said, $40 per hour is very pricey but not out of our range. We will pay that much for a NICE facility.
The Church idea seems promising.
I've checked in with the Boys and Girls club, Saanich School District, and St. Margaret's Private School. As stated, schools are expensive. The Boys and Girls club is $25 per night but may not have storage. Also, parking is an issue. I'm waiting to hear back from them.
Keep up the great work everyone!
Blake
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I have a possible location as well at Beaver Lake school which is no longer being used as a school. We would have about 2/3 of the whole gym and there are several class rooms we can use for piting and/or storage as well as the stage. I will investigate tomorow.
What happened to it? That's my old stompin' grounds; I went there from grade 3 to 5.
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Hey did you go to Prospect too? How old are you? They shut Beaver Lake down a few years ago. The school board still owns it.
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Yep. Then Royal Oak, then Claremont.
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The powers that be are away until the 20th regarding rental at Beaver Lake... just to verify we have our own insurance right?
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im pretty sure we do. if we dont we should!
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Yes we do it one the reason for the racing fees. it cover that cost plus others.
The powers that be are away until the 20th regarding rental at Beaver Lake... just to verify we have our own insurance right?
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To confirm the above sentiment, yes, IROCC does carry liability insurance. If further details are required, they can be produced.
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Just wanted to know for my "sales pitch" on Tuesday....
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Hi, Me again (Laurie - Cody's Mom)
Sooke Baptist Church nothing available.
Sooke EMCS High School GYM is available :lol: , no storage:
Saturday start at 10:00 am is the cheapest because somebody is there from 10-1 so we don't have to pay an extra $16.00 per hr.
Saturday Rental from 10-5 = $200.00 approx.
Saturday Rental anytime = $260.00 approx.
Sunday Rental anytime = $260.00 approx.
NOTE: EMCS has a Supervisor on staff Sat. for 3 hours so we don't pay the extra $16.00 hr., the Elem. Schools only let you book till approx. 10:00 during the week and would have to hire a Custodian at an extra 25.00 an hour. I think EMCS is the best bet!
I have called the Sooke Community Hall and left a message so waiting to hear their rates. I will keep you posted.
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I just called a few more that I thought of:
:) SOOKE LEGION UPSTAIRS 642-2052 or 642-5913 Liz
(heated, washrooms, no storage, they need use of kitchen till approx. 8:30ish)
FRIDAY's from 4-11 pm or 4:30-11:30 = $80.25 total per week available every Fri! :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) SENIORS CENTRE 642-6898
I spoke to a Volunteer and said don't quote her on the prices and availablity so left a message for someone to call me to confirm
SUNDAY anytime $100.00
Evening Rates $40.00 but she doesn't think it is available on Saturday and didn't ask about Friday.
They have NO PILLARS and they have tables and chairs set up that would have to be taken down and set back up but Price sounds Great!!!! No Storage.
I have also contacted the Sooke Community Hall and still haven't heard.
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Personally I'm not too far away from Sooke but I think its a little far for a lot of the members esp if they are living in Sidney or Sannich. Of course beggers can't be choosers ;)
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Hi, I am still awaiting Sooke Community Hall. I thought the Legion was a good price, and the Sooke Seniors Centre. I tried a few places in Colwood and they were expensive. Yes you can get schools and prob all the districts are the same but we are prob looking at 20.00 an hour plus 25.00 custodian so that is 45.00 an Hour! Edward Milne Gym was cheapest on a Saturday but start at 10:00 as there is somebody already there. The places I called we have a selection of different places and dates so that is another thing everyone will have to decide. I personally like the Sunday all day idea at the Seniors Centre as that is the date currently. Let me know as we will probably have to decide soon????
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Hello all,
How is everyone making out on there follow ups.
I have emailed my Clerk Administrator and he has put me on a email list to recieve info on the new dry floor area, when the info comes available.
I have contacted:
1.) The Lady of the Rosery(On Goldstream Ave.) they are book almost every other saturday evening. 180.00 a night would have to be approved by their council..
2.) Messages have been left with Metchosin Community Hall, The Masonic lodge and the Gordon United Church.
3.)Luxton Fair grounds is 260.50 a night (cheaper for a Wednesday or Thursday) They too are booked atleast twice a month for the next few months.
4.) The Langford Legion is 428.00 a night. No answer at the Sooke Legion.
So no luck so far but I will continure looking.
Blake do you have a schedule for the season yet? If not do you know atleast how many night we are going to be able to run?
RYY
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A schedule will be dependant on the availability of whatever suitable venue we end up running in.
We will be looking for as many Saturday afternoon / evenings as possible from October 8th 'till probably April 29th. We'd like to stick with Saturdays, however if there is a deal that's too good to pass up at a different time, we may re-consider.
We are also willing to pre-pay (after a trial period), which may entice some organizations to consider us more.
Keep up the great work!
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I talked to someone today about Beaver Lake. They are ironing out the details. Will keep you posted...
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Go kurt :P
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Ryan,
I have the schedule for the Saanich Fairgrounds and it's not very good at all. Maybe 10 possible dates all winter long.... Fortunately most of October is available to us which gives us a short-term fallback plan if we can't get something else lined up in the next two weeks.
I'm very excited about all the effort that people are putting in to find us a new winter home. We'll need to get some firm quotes from the leads that we still have "in limbo" and then we can start to do some serious decision making.
Blake
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Well here is the scoop on Saanich Municipality's Facilities:
Basically I've narrowed it down to one possibility. Due to unavailability, early closings hours and extreme prices, Commonwealth Pool, Cedar Hill Rec and Gordon Head Rec are out. GH does have Sundays open, but I haven't explored it further than that.
That leaves Pearkes Arena. I have spoken with Annelise Ransier who is their booking clerk and she is very enthusiastic about the possibility of us using their Fieldhouse. So much, that she is holding the building for us until after our general meeting next week. She fully understands the need for our executive to meet with her before going any further.
The room is great! It measures 105' x 120' and the floor is solid. The lighting is good (not great, but good enough) and there are about 10-12 outlets around three sides. They will also supply portable breaker boxes on sandwich boards so we can pit anywhere. The access is good with multiple doors and one large roll-up door. There are also bathrooms and access to the Concession (when its open).
Here are a few pics:
(http://www.lenargroup.com/images/fieldhouse1.jpg)
(http://www.lenargroup.com/images/fieldhouse2.jpg)
(http://www.lenargroup.com/images/fieldhouse3.jpg)
The downside is no storage. They will allow us to leave a container in the back parking lot however. They do this for a couple of other organizations and it does need to be approved by the Manager, but Annelise figures there should be no problem, providing our insurance will cover it.
The only other downside is the schedule. As I posted earlier, they are completely open except for most of October and some of November. Heres the link again: http://www.lenargroup.com/images/Fieldhouse.pdf
If we are able to stay at the Fairgrounds for that time, then we may be able to get a full season of racing in.
Feel free to contact Annelise at 475-5453 if you wish to speak with her directly. As I said, she is waiting to hear from us and if theres anything more I can do, let me know.....
Damon
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Hey Damon,
If that schedule is a listing of "available" timeslots then it would seem like it would really only work for us from January on. The available Saturday timeslots in November and December seem to end at 4:30PM for some reason.... Do you know if this is actually the case? If we could get the place until 11PM on those days then we might have something.
Also, anyone have any idea as to what a container would cost to rent?
Blake
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Unfortunately, Daryl would probably be a good bet for that, and he's unavailable for a few weeks.
However, if we have the tentative plan of running at Saanich for October then transitioning to Pearkes in late November (after a couple week hiatus), that leaves sufficient time to sort some alternative arangement out, wheather that be on-site storage, or a bigger trailer.
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The container you looking for to store. Your thinking of a 23' pup trailer can. I can take a look what avail in the area. Unfortunatly we don't have any trailer or can( don't deal with cans.) I will also ask both my boss and my sale rep(know alot of contact in this)
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Great work Damon! Thanks, and thanks to everyone else who have been making enquiries around town.
I've got my fingers crossed that Saanich comes through for us.
Let's hope that the Fieldhouse usage and scheduling work out, as its' central location and easy access/good exposure makes it almost too good to be true! It most certainly looks incredible, and definitely appears large enough for our needs.
Not to mention it appears to have heaters, and what look like possibly Sodium lights! :D
Regards,
Nick
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Ya the schedule is the available time slots and you're right, we wouldn't really be in full swing until after the holidays, but its more than what we've got out at the fairgrounds isn't it? And if we can race a few times there to fill-in-the-blanks, I think thats perfect.
I'd even say take the October 1st date and give it a try! For Nov. maybe we can run during the day, have a fun-day, advertise. I dunno, it's easy for me to say, I've never been out, ya know... lets talk about it Sunday (we better be racing :<) and/or next Wed.
I have no idea what a container would cost. I hope we wouldn't need something so big that we're paying for space. What about those U-Pak containers? Are those big enough for the carpet? How big do we need again?
Anyway, by no means think that I'm trying to promote Saanich, I'm looking forward to racing anywhere, If we can get a better spot, great. I looking forward to seeing the barn too!
And yes Nick, it's heated, very comfortable. I don't know what lighting it is, but being indirect it gives it a cathedral feel and this side is slightly dimmer than the other side(Its one big large room split in two). They even mentioned that these lights are due for changing. It takes your eyes a minute to adjust, its wierd.
Until later gentlemen, Damon
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As a refresher, the rolls of carpet are 12 feet wide. They are never rolled exactly straight, so they end up being at least 13 feet long unless you spend an hour rolling each roll. So, we would want to store the carpet in something at least 14 feet in length.
If anyone has any leads on a trailer like the one we use for summer racing except 14 feet long, let us know, since we'd love to buy one!
This Pearks Arena location looks great so far, with the minor exception of the schedule this fall, and the storage hiccups.
In case it doesn't work out, it looks like there may be several other possible alternatives; good work everybody!
This location has been central to IROCC over the years; the back parking lot is the location of IROCC's inagural Speed Weekend (back in 1988) that turned into a mud bog (we ran off-road there for several years), and there's a picture of the 4 of us running Touring Cars back when IROCC transitioned to an asphalt club in the picture gallery a decade later after it had been turned into a parking lot.
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You know, it really feels good going into this Winter season.
There are a lot of fresh ideas floating around, not to mention it's really nice to have a few irons in the fire as far as the Club's venue goes.
Thanks for the contact info Damon.
I'll give Annelise a ring this morning in hopes of setting up a short meeting with her and the Club's executive members who can escape from work for a half hour or so.
I know you also made an enquiry about Gordon Head's little auditorium as well.
Believe me, Gordon Head is a great Community Centre, but the auditorium is pretty small, too small infact for our needs.
Regards,
Nick
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Hello all,
I made some phone calls this morning regarding container rentals they are as follows:
A 8'x20' steel locking container rents from 115.00(long term contract) to 135.00 a month. Those prices do not include taxes. They also do not include container moving, which ranges from 150.00 to 200.00 for a return drop off.
I contacted 4 different companies, if anyone can find somthing cheaper please post it.
Just thought I would let you all know.
RYY
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Daryl can move it.
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Thanks Ryy!
Those container rental prices sound inline with what we were paying back in the Work Point Barracks days.
Although the drop off and moving fees seem a bit steep, but at the time, we had a fellow in the club who did the moving for us, and I believe, he even owned one of the containers we used at some point in time, but I could be wrong about that.
Regards,
Nick
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You're thinking of Gary Murry. I was going to mention that in my last post, but I didn't.
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Yes, I was thinking of Gary Murry.
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Drop off and pick up sounded high to me as well but those numbers came from 4 different companies so who am I to argue.
I also phoned about a trailer(new was the quickest to get pricing on).
A 14'L x 7'W x 6'7"H tandem axle trailer w/elctric brakes, rear doors and a side cargo door is 5700.00 plus tax = 6498.00 done deal.
I also found a clearance price on a 14'L x 6'W x 6'1"H for 5100.00 but I think that is getting a little small? Or is it. The places I phoned suggested putting our trailer in the buy and sell as they did not want a trade.
Just some more info for ya'llll
RYY
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mabye try calling uhaul or buget as i am pretty sure they sell there older models off.............
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That smaller one doesn't sound too small to me.
Where is it?
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The smaller one was priced from RTR Trailer mart in Duncan.
7337 Trans Canada Highway
1-877-743-6060
I spoke with a gentlman by the name of Al
RYY
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Man If I only could remember. I though I saw some where that sold trailer pretty cheap.
We might be able to find a cheaper on on the mainland. Willing to go over and get it.
I will start a search, on the mainland. Andrew
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Good trailer hunting boyz! :-D
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How much did we pay for our current trailer. How much would we sell it to a club member for?
I am thinking I will need a trailer for my next RC plane!
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Thank-you to all the poeple doing all of this leg work, I cant imagine there is an RC club on Earth as good as ours. There cant be.
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:lol: :lol: SOOKE COMMUNITY HALL $100.00 inc tax per week
SUNDAY ALL DAY
Checking calling me back tomorrow on: SATURDAY DAY OR EVENING
Checking calling me back tomorrow on: FREE STORAGE
Basketball Sized Gym with 8' on each side
A few Special Functions booked one in November for a Craft Fair on the Sunday so would not be available to us.
Calling me back hopefully tomorrow on Storage and if avail on Saturday as well so we will have a choice.
As far as Sooke goes I think this is the best bet, bigger then:
Sooke Legion Upstairs & Sooke Seniors Centre and at same price range and other places did not have storage. I know alot of people probably don't like the idea of Sooke but ..... look at the price!
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I am thinking I will need a trailer for my next RC plane!
You're planning on pulling it with your Rabbit? You'd probably be better off putting a hitch on your bike.
I think we got it off an ex-R/C racer for over a K, and I believe Daryl has a potential buyer lined up. I don't want to make the price all that public, since I could be wrong, and it's not necessarialy in the best interests of the club to make that sort of thing public.
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10-4 on keeping it on the down-low, a ballpark was all I wanted. How about this, how much would a similarly sized used trailer be worth, 1-2 K?
You are not trash talking the Rabbit are you? No-one beats me off the line in that thing, no-one. By the 25 foot mark pretty much anyone can beat me but off the line the rabbit is undefeated! I have to run the odd red-light to get the holeshot but the rabbit rocks dude! And it looks good,...doesnt it?
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Probably (maybe a bit more), yep, yah right, and sure, if you say so dude!
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Do you think Amanda's Dodge Intrepid 2.2 Litre V6 can handle a similar trailer with a couple of hundered pounds of cargo?
PS. Thomas I hope I see you in the Ford sometime soon at a stop light cuz yer done dude!
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No.
The car might be able to physically haul it, but a car like that should only be used with a light-duty utility trailer, not a heavy-duty box trailer, even though you are planning on packing not much more than air.
That's just my opinion, of course.
I'd be willing to bet that trailer weighs around 700 lbs empty, you're talking about wanting to haul around half a ton on the back of a car (not all tongue weight of course).
I'm hardly an expert when it comes to these things, but It's probably not a very good idea. Of course that will give you all the more reason to want to try. . .
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yep, its too much trailer for me. I would like an enclosed unit that weights half that. Or buy a damn truck and piss the gas money away. The rabbit is old and ugly but it sure saves me alot of money.
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I bet your Rabbit could pull the trailer no problem, it's the stopping part that might become interesting!
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Dude, if you're wanting a trailer for a large scale aircraft, why not just build a box to fit the top of your Rabbit!
It could be all nice and aerodynamic like....
Then your VW would really fly, and not just off the line! LOL
C of G, C of G! 8O
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Nick, great idea. Looks like I'm keeping gold old "Funky Gold Medina" the rabbit
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Hi, I just heard from Debbie at the SOOKE COMMUNITY HALL
Sign a contract, no gas remotes, can be bumped for a function
:P FREE STORAGE
:wink: AVAILABLE SATURDAY OR SUNDAY
:lol: $100.00 TOTAL PER WEEK
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Hi all,
Some of us visited Peakes arena this morning to checkout the fieldhouse. It's an awesome facility but unfortunately it's completely booked until January 2006. We could try it out in the new year I suppose but it just won't work for the Oct-Dec timeframe. It's also a little pricey at $38/h and there is no free storage.
I visited the Boys and Girls Club this morning as well. They have a gym that is 90' x 60' which would work nicely. It's heated, fairly cheap (less than $25/h), and available every single Saturday night from now until the end of time. They have no storage so they told me that we could build a small shed thing to store our dolley against the outside of the gym (in a small, protected alley thing that no one would really ever see). This would probably be a lot cheaper than renting a container.
The two drawbacks are location and parking. They're located near Yates and Fernwood (across the street from Central Middle School) which is obviously fairly close to downtown. So, it's not quite as central to everyone as Peakes would have been. Also, it's all street parking down there on Yates, Johnson, and the various side streets. Actually, you can also park at Central School if you had to. Anyway, it's not quite as convenient as a real parking lot. It would be possible to drop your gear off near the gym door and then go park.
The Sooke Community Hall sounds great other than the stigma of being "way out in Sooke". Of course, we've been "way out in Brentwood" for the last six years.... What's a realistic commute time from downtown Victoria to the Sooke Community Hall?
Blake
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...Better than Duncan.
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i think we should be grateful that we could get a place that we could have free storage and be able to raace atleast 3 out 4 weeks in a month........whocares if its out in sooke..............i think the money the club saves and the steady racing would be worth the commute
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I would drive an hour each direction to race every week (I would actually drive farther than that if I had to).
Go beaver lake (or sooke if the beaver doesnt work)
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Hey guys,
I have to agree with Mr. Doug. On paper Sooke looks like too good of a deal to pass on. And besides, It may be our best option for lots of racing
before the new year if we decide to go for Pearkes which isn't available till January. The money the club could save can go towards the much needed trailer we so desire.
There's just something about the word......FREE!
That;s my 2 cents v'all 8)
Mike
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cool nothing like an hour and a half drive from sidney. I'd rather pay more than give the gas company more money. But if we go to Sooke I'll be there. I just curious on the condition of the road if when we get the one day of snow per year. Since i'm not from the island just curious on the Condition of the road that is all. been to Sooke twice.
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well im not too familiar with sooke either but im sure it wont take no hour and a half seen how i can get to parksville in that amount of time.........
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my house in colwood/metchosin/triangle mountain to the sooke community hall is 15-20 minutes. 12 minutes on my bike.
It takes me well over 20 to get to saanich fairgrounds.
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cool nothing like an hour and a half drive from sidney. I'd rather pay more than give the gas company more money. But if we go to Sooke I'll be there. I just curious on the condition of the road if when we get the one day of snow per year. Since i'm not from the island just curious on the Condition of the road that is all. been to Sooke twice.
agree with you there. i would rather pay more to race than pay for the gas, plus the time it takes time to drive there and back. on top of that, it is not a very road to drive in the winter anyways. the money that you save on the rental in sooke, you will have to pay for that in gas out of your own pockets. i wouldn't mind paying more in race closer to victoria and the club can still save more money to guy other things. even if it cost an extra $10. $25 is still a cheap night out...well, that if you don't break anything....LOL......
i guess our problem is availability closer to town.
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Question to those in the know:
What is the deciding factor as to the location we finally choose to call home for our winter racing schedule?
Who has the final say on location and nightly enterance fees?
Sooke, Sidney or Saanich..................... let race!!
RYY
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SOOKE SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. BLAKE /GRAIG /TOM /MR JONES/????????????? you guys should have a look its under 20 minutes from out door track
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From downtown (eatons center) to sooke community hall takes no more than 45-50 mins and that going granny driving........ road doesnt get to bad in winter very rarely is it undriveable only once last year it was undriveable and that was fixed within 2 hours so yea that bout all for that
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i would drive to timbucktwo to race as well .but i don't think new people would come to check out our awsome show in sooke since it seems to be to far at sannich fair grounds. our current outdoor location is a huge factor in our succes.when we go into our winter hybernation we should try and stay easy access .this would be possible at beaver lake school witch we are currently investigating.this place will be cheap .absolutly no bumps storage available .just think the refreshing odour of tq+8 every sat night
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cross your fingers
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that must of taken a couple of hours to write craig..... :lol: