Poll
Question:
Do you want a RC track in Victoria area?
Option 1: I want a place to go play. And am willing to help in anyway I can, but not interested in any form of organized off road racing.
Option 2: I dont want to help but want a place to go play and to race in a organized off road racing club.
Option 3: I want to have place to race in a organized off road racing club. And am willing to help in anyway I can.
Option 4: I dont want to help but want a place to go play and not interested in any form of organized off road racing.
Just for the sake of interest lets see how many ppl are "seriously" interested in an RC track in the Victoria area.
Seems theres been some chatting between some members on here in regards to talking to Juan De Fuca Rec about building a facility to house the interests of IROCC on road and possibly off road :D I said enough :-X
I am one for the RC facility or whatever I'm willing to help for a off road track. And who else is in.... ;D
This in regards to this post made by a member on another forum "coastal007"
"""For those interested, I've had an email conversation with Blake from IROCC about a combined road and off-road track area on Juan de Fuca Rec land. Here is what he said...
"Our dealings with Juan de Fuca have been positive. They have always been helpful with helping us secure our parking lot each year. We are permitted access to the lot almost every Sunday in the summer, and they always let us know early if there is some other function that might get in the way. All they ask of us is to be named on our insurance policy.
I have never approached them about building a permanent track. I feel like I *should* approach them because it could be good for our club, but the truth is, the location we race is very ideal for us because it is so visible. I would hate to have to move to a remote location in order to have a permanent facility.
Kamloops has this problem. It's in the middle of nowhere behind a relatively dead arena. Their club is not large and I feel this is partly due to the lack of visibility of their facility. You're right though, it's a very nice setup!
So, all that said, of course I would still be interested in some sort of permanent facility for IROCC! It would be very nice to not have to build the track every Sunday, and to be able to practice on it during the week. That might mean teaming up with another group such as yourself to build a dual purpose onroad/offroad venue.
Let me know if you are planning an official proposal for Juan de Fuca. Or if you just want to meet in person to talk, we could do that too."
I agree with Blake that location is number one for any RC track... the more visible the better. If we could work along side the IROCC I'm sure that would give us more pull with Juan de Fuca or anywhere else for that matter."""
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I meant to say: This thread is in regards to this post made by a member on another forum "coastal007"
Well for those who are interested a track is in the works we got land 3 arces to play with so just matter a time its coming along. More info to come. There is light at the end of the tunnel.... 8)
id be interested.. 3 acres?.. where??
Im not sure where myself my friends friend lol is the one with the land. He wants to build something track but is worried there wont be much interest. We agreed all of us want short course racing for sure the rest is in the air for what else races. We want a organized form of racing too so. So yeah the land problem is no longer an issue. Now its just funding and put things on paper as to track layout etc. We'll need fill top soil and gotta rent a bobcat but we are aways from that point need to scope the land and figure out a layout. There is light just takes some "time to get all the bricks in order" so to speak.
you should watch a lot of videos that show track layouts on youtube
it will give you a good idea of what you need for a layout.
Gorden
Dont forget liability insurance i would look into that first before you waste your time.
Quote from: gotnitro on May 24, 2010, 10:36:38 PM
Dont forget liability insurance i would look into that first before you waste your time.
yeah thats one of the many things that has to be covered before flipping dirt around. ::) Whatever happen to "use at your own risk" being a good enough solution those days are long gone... >:(
I've accually met with the juan de fuca people 4 times. The last thing that happened was he was going to talk to colwood and langford council.
Falcon, do you know if Juan de Fuca has or had any plans for the old BMX area that they ripped out?
Quote from: Coastal007 on May 25, 2010, 05:41:01 PM
Falcon, do you know if Juan de fracka has or had any plans for the old BMX area that they ripped out?
the bmx track is now a parking lot
Quote from: light on May 25, 2010, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: Coastal007 on May 25, 2010, 05:41:01 PM
Falcon, do you know if Juan de fracka has or had any plans for the old BMX area that they ripped out?
the bmx track is now a parking lot
Long story short.
The owner of that old bmx track who owned that land wanted to turn it into an RC track (whatever you wanted). Well apparently at that time no one came forward and approach the owner with ideas so he sold it to that discovery kids climbing centre.
I wouldnt bother with Juan de fuca they would want independent liability insurance before allowing any RC facility to be built. To many costs and no return to cover up front costs.
Quote from: bubu1.0 on May 25, 2010, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: light on May 25, 2010, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: Coastal007 on May 25, 2010, 05:41:01 PM
Falcon, do you know if Juan de fracka has or had any plans for the old BMX area that they ripped out?
the bmx track is now a parking lot
I wouldnt bother with Juan de fracka they would want independent liability insurance before allowing any RC facility to be built. To many costs and no return to cover up front costs.
Insurance is not that hard to attain. IROCC holds a policy on which Juan de Fuca (West Shore Parks and Recreation Society) is named as an "additional insured". Yes, we have to pay for this policy each year, but it's not really a deal breaker for a group that is truly interested in a new initiative.
Blake
Quote from: Blake on May 25, 2010, 11:32:48 PM
Quote from: bubu1.0 on May 25, 2010, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: light on May 25, 2010, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: Coastal007 on May 25, 2010, 05:41:01 PM
Falcon, do you know if Juan de fracka has or had any plans for the old BMX area that they ripped out?
the bmx track is now a parking lot
I wouldnt bother with Juan de fracka they would want independent liability insurance before allowing any RC facility to be built. To many costs and no return to cover up front costs.
Insurance is not that hard to attain. IROCC holds a policy on which Juan de fracka (West Shore Parks and Recreation Society) is named as an "additional insured". Yes, we have to pay for this policy each year, but it's not really a deal breaker for a group that is truly interested in a new initiative.
Blake
Ok so is there any hope in the near future of anything from your end?? Or should we proceed with what is going on here. I would LOVE to have a place that is professionally run and organized to go to I think everyone here agrees on that. Instead of some backyard made up track. But, I think doesnt matter since everyone is soo desperate that they dont care what "label" is behind it they just want a place they all can play and race. Our butts are sore from the beatings we take from the bmx track owners....Tired of hearing "those things destroy the track, get off!!" >:(
Its been years since there has been anything, and there has been dozens of attempts of building something but always seem to fall through. So I dont know its tough to get too razzed up about anything now days with the past that we have all seen and read. Are you the choosen one.... will you lead us into the future and beyond...LMAO ;D but all jokes aside really is there a something?
Ya there is something and its called on-road racing its different then off road because there is skill involved.... you should come out on a sunday and check it out....
Quote from: gotnitro on May 26, 2010, 11:46:43 AM
Ya there is something and its called on-road racing its different then off road because there is skill involved.... you should come out on a sunday and check it out....
Thats what I thought. Ok we'll continue with what we had going on here then. 8)
There are skills involved in both types of racing. I just think on-road requires a lot more precision than off-road! ;D
By the way bubu1.0, just out of curiosity, as one of IROCC's Executive, who are you, exactly?
Have you attended any of our on-road racing at the Colwood Park and Ride parking lot, or any of our indoor 12th scale racing on carpet during the Winter?
No one seems to know who you are.
Regards,
Nick
From another Exec. member:
No, you are not likely to find too much support from within this organization for a few reasons.
1) A lot of us did come the off-road ranks back in the day, but as that section of R/C failed largely due to a lack of members and a location to race. It was easier to find unused parking lots to race on-road cars than to find somewhere to find a large enough plot of land to run off-road.
2) The location we now have for on-road has helped to make our club grow tremendously. Most of the original members are still racing and enjoy seeing new members come on board, mainly because of the current location. Off-road is hard to gain new racers because the track is usually hidden in somebodies backyard where the viibility is nil, so you are totally reliant on word of mouth.
3)IROCC, as a club is already supporting the efforts of Air Ink Hobbies in Nanaimo because of the support we have had from a group of their racers during our winter indoor season. What goes around comes around. Air Ink has a great following for their off-road racing, both local and from other locales on the Island. They have put a great deal of money and time into the track in Nanaimo. And since they have a hobby shop right next to the track, they are very likely going to continue to grow.
Don't get me wrong, I loved racing off-road when we were getting 20+ entries but I don't want to go out and race(bash) in the dirt when there is always a big field of racers and a number of spectators at our on-road track. So, I wish you all the luck if you go ahead in this venture but why not support a club that is already up and running, Air Ink for off-road or IROCC for on-road.
Quote from: WhoDoYouThink on May 26, 2010, 03:50:19 PM
There are skills involved in both types of racing. I just think on-road requires a lot more precision than off-road! ;D
By the way bubu1.0, just out of curiosity, as one of IROCC's Executive, who are you, exactly?
Have you attended any of our on-road racing at the Colwood Park and Ride parking lot, or any of our indoor 12th scale racing on carpet during the Winter?
No one seems to know who you are.
Regards,
Nick
My name is Alan
I attended a couple of your outdoor events up in Colwood but never seen your indoor events except on Youtube. I only talk to one person didnt formly introduce myself but I yacked for a bit about onroad stuff I believe his name was Gordon. Ive talk to others but it was more casual yacking then anything. Im not here to piss anyone off I just want a place to go race off road thats it. Currently using the bmx track to race on but we keep getting boated and really the bmx track isnt for RC to begin with so. There is a light at the end of the tunnel as off racing is growing especailly the short course truck racing genre everyone in the industry is on board novak,tekin,proline etc. Hoping this growth in the hobby will hit the island and some form of organized off road racing will come to Vic area. I know naniamo has felt this and they are endorsing it and benefiting from it too, I hope Vic gets the urge to take that step too. ;)
Im sorry I am not interested in on road stuff its not my thing.
Quote from: dajracer on May 26, 2010, 05:01:38 PM
From another Exec. member:
No, you are not likely to find too much support from within this organization for a few reasons.
1) A lot of us did come the off-road ranks back in the day, but as that section of R/C failed largely due to a lack of members and a location to race. It was easier to find unused parking lots to race on-road cars than to find somewhere to find a large enough plot of land to run off-road.
2) The location we now have for on-road has helped to make our club grow tremendously. Most of the original members are still racing and enjoy seeing new members come on board, mainly because of the current location. Off-road is hard to gain new racers because the track is usually hidden in somebodies backyard where the viibility is nil, so you are totally reliant on word of mouth.
3)IROCC, as a club is already supporting the efforts of Air Ink Hobbies in Nanaimo because of the support we have had from a group of their racers during our winter indoor season. What goes around comes around. Air Ink has a great following for their off-road racing, both local and from other locales on the Island. They have put a great deal of money and time into the track in Nanaimo. And since they have a hobby shop right next to the track, they are very likely going to continue to grow.
Don't get me wrong, I loved racing off-road when we were getting 20+ entries but I don't want to go out and race(bash) in the dirt when there is always a big field of racers and a number of spectators at our on-road track. So, I wish you all the luck if you go ahead in this venture but why not support a club that is already up and running, Air Ink for off-road or IROCC for on-road.
I agree with what you said it makes plenty of sense. But, the facts you stated maybe hinder by the fact that your group issues with lack of interest was from the mid 90's. Now I dont know your source of info if its up to date or not. But again land and visibility become big factor. Which brings us back to square 1.
Lets say in a perfect world so to speak.
If land came availible lets say free to build your onroad facility and with room to spare lets say arces. And seperate group of off road rc enthusaites wanted to join and make it an on and off road community area so you have pavement we have the dirt. And we live happily ever after :-*
Is this dream even feasible could this become a reality at some point.
That is the dream of all R/C racers, a community that can play together.
Quote from: dajracer on May 26, 2010, 05:51:41 PM
That is the dream of all R/C racers, a community that can play together.
Thats good to hear Im not the only one that dreams that...
I thought I some weird dease for dreaming about RC communities where RCs run wild and free ;D
Hey Alan
What do you drive for your off road car?
I have a XT8 Truggy and I'll be going back up to Air Ink in Mid to late June it you want to car pool
Gorden
I've got a slash 2wd and 4x4 I would race the 4x4. Also have couple others but they dont really apply to racing more bashing. Also getting a blitz soon. I love SC trucks their so cool. 8)
Quote from: light on May 26, 2010, 07:46:11 PM
Hey Alan
What do you drive for your off road car?
I have a XT8 Truggy and I'll be going back up to Air Ink in Mid to late June it you want to car pool
Gorden
Dont you have a buggy too? I swear I saw you driving a buggy super fast white one trying to clear the triples in one go.
Quote from: bubu1.0 on May 26, 2010, 09:56:12 PM
Quote from: light on May 26, 2010, 07:46:11 PM
Hey Alan
What do you drive for your off road car?
I have a XT8 Truggy and I'll be going back up to Air Ink in Mid to late June it you want to car pool
Gorden
Dont you have a buggy too? I swear I saw you driving a buggy super fast white one trying to clear the triples in one go.
Yes I have a buggy but I have not raced it yet. Come out this Sunday and chat
I pit in the 1st spot on the left with Blake and Vince & Danny
Gorden
Well, so much for built-in word censoring. :o
Just recieved a message from a dog things are getting heated up the track idea is now get closer to reality very close..... No joke. ;)
I can almost smell the dirt. 8)
hey guys just went thought the thread quickly, the issue about the Old bmx track and the new bmx track, the old BMX track is run by ABA, and only they are allowed to race and practice on that track. the new one that they built for the Worlds last year is not used by the ABA, as ABA is not allowed to use that track and/practice on it. plus it is to big for them to use anyhow. both track as staying put for now according to my friend who's son BMX's
Quote from: cyrrus on May 29, 2010, 01:06:13 PM
hey guys just went thought the thread quickly, the issue about the Old bmx track and the new bmx track, the old BMX track is run by ABA, and only they are allowed to race and practice on that track. the new one that they built for the Worlds last year is not used by the ABA, as ABA is not allowed to use that track and/practice on it. plus it is to big for them to use anyhow. both track as staying put for now according to my friend who's son BMX's
The old track is now a parking lot you would never know there was a track there
Did some brain storming this is what I came up with for a layout for the track. Should be able to handle all our needs for 1/10 to 1/8 scale truggys etc. :)
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Have you even come by to meet any of the members yet. Also then we would know if you were real or not.
Heh, I'm guessing Alan is real; not a keyboard friendly robot.
Alan, your name came up at our club race yesterday. Any word on the location/owner of the land you are looking at?
Blake
Yes I realize that he is a real person but nobody was willing to challenge this guy at all. Nobodies met him in person and this track thing is a big deal to all of us. We all would like to have are own place.
Hi there gents, thought we should tell you what we've been up to lately. My name is Jami and I've teamed up with Alan trying to find land in Greater Victoria that we can use to build a quality off-road track on. I've been an off-road backyard basher for many moons but have never come out to check out one of your road events (I'll make it out soon, I swear). I've always hoped an off-road track would get started here in Greater Victoria that I could join but as you all know to well, that hasn't happen lately! What Alan and I are trying to do at this point is locate a piece of property that we can use without cost (other than insurance). I'm sure others have tried before us and obviously failed, but times do change and we thought we'd give it a go. Location is key and at this point I'm looking at commercial properties with vacant land around. Recently I've been in contact with the owner of Western Speedway but nothing is available there (looked promising for a minute). Maybe once the gravel pit lease is up in three years we can look at that again. We haven't yet approached Juan de Fuca as it looks like the only possible location is now a parking lot. I'm in the process of tracking down the owners of the Sandown Park land in North Saanich as I understand the horse track is shutting down soon. So far all I can find out is it's owned by Colwood Park Association Ltd. in Vancouver. So the search continues...
By no means do we wish to take away anything from the IROCC club and speaking for myself I'd just like an off-road race track local to Greater Victoria that I can be involved in and get to within 30min. Family life keeps one close to home these days! Ultimately, a RC park for on and off-road racing (like the Kamloops experiment) would be great to be involved with but local land and location seems to be the issue (as always). Dare to dream though dare to dream...
Any help or advice to this regard would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to email me anytime. Thanks guys...
I will try to get out to your road event this weekend to say hi as long as it's not raining (#$&*#)
Jami
Thanks for the update Jami and Alan. Best of luck with your search.
In the meantime, when you have a free Sunday, take a trip up to Air Ink in Nanaimo. You'll get a temporary offroad fix, and they'd love to have your support.
Blake
Quote from: weekend camper on May 28, 2010, 12:57:58 AM
Well, so much for built-in word censoring. :o
Hence why I detest such mis-applications of technology by their very principle.
I think Juan de Fracka has a nice ring to it.
Blake
Quote from: Blake on June 01, 2010, 08:48:18 PM
Thanks for the update Jami and Alan. Best of luck with your search.
In the meantime, when you have a free Sunday, take a trip up to Air Ink in Nanaimo. You'll get a temporary offroad fix, and they'd love to have your support.
Blake
Ha... free Sunday to drive up to Nanaimo to play... wouldn't that be nice~!! I can't even get out to Juan de Fracka... Haha I think the name has stuck....
Jami
Well an update:
Things are moving forward. I sent off an email to the Langford City council. The Langford Parks Manger Jason Parks looked through the email and was interested in the idea of track in Langford area. He has pitched the idea to fellow board members today. I am currently waiting their decision, I will be hearing from him this week sometime. Hopfully they have something good to say :-[
Hey guys,
My name is Mike....new here, anyways i think there might be a good chance to have a track at sandown park me and my buddy screw around there all the time with our nitro rc trucks and we talk to the groundskeeper every now and then and he thinks its awesome that someone is using the land.....he might be our "in" something to think about......
Hey badabing, thanks for chiming in! I've tried to contact the owners of the Sandown Park land in North Saanich (Colwood Park Association Ltd from Vancouver) and I haven't had any luck getting anyone on the other end. The next time you're out talking to the groundskeeper, see if he has a contact we can speak to regarding using a small piece of land for an RC track. Thanks...
Jami
will do for sure!!
For the time being this is where we are currently playing behind Ashley Furniture in Langford. Here is a video from the Saturday. Fun times had by all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSJweGQ29Ko
Pics of the track we made wow it was hot out. :o
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i look like i could be a pretty hot girl if i had long blonde hair ~_~