track repairs

gotnitro · May 26, 2009, 03:27:05 PM

should be done soon. We had talked about plastic for the inner walls i called industrial plastics and for arena board white same stuff used in a hockey rink. 1/2 inch 4 x 8 is 257.38 plus tx and 1/4 inch 4 x 8 is 115.01 plus tx and 3/8 standard ply 13.00 plus tx and 3/8 good one sode is 29.00 plus tax. what is the word of the executives.?

haddow · May 26, 2009, 04:41:26 PM

yep the boards are pretty ratty looking.

Blake · May 26, 2009, 06:10:30 PM

Quote from: gotnitro on May 26, 2009, 03:27:05 PM
should be done soon. We had talked about plastic for the inner walls i called industrial plastics and for arena board white same stuff used in a hockey rink. 1/2 inch 4 x 8 is 257.38 plus tx and 1/4 inch 4 x 8 is 115.01 plus tx and 3/8 standard ply 13.00 plus tx and 3/8 good one sode is 29.00 plus tax. what is the word of the executives.?

Thanks for the info Gerry. Do you think the 1/4" stuff would be strong enough for us?

We could get 12x 8' lengths out of one sheet. That assumes the interior walls are 4" tall. So that's 96' out of one sheet. Actually, it'll be slightly less length than that due to the overlap where the bolts pass through. The straight and sweeper are probably close to 150' long sometimes, so we'd really need 300' of it just for that. Three sheets would be 288' which is close. Then, assume we'd want another 288' for other strategic walls around the track.

So, six sheets would probably more than cover our needs. The 1/4" stuff would cost 6 x 115.01 = $690 + Taxes. That is a lot, but if it lasted a long time then it could be worth it.

Daryl?

Blake

Shawn68z · May 26, 2009, 07:14:33 PM

Just want to point out that too think might not be good. The boards still need to flex for corners, and to help absorb the impacts.

Shawn.

dajracer · May 26, 2009, 08:11:38 PM

Hey Shawn, were you "think"ing about not being too thick?
Blake, I only pay the bills. Whatever is the consensus is what we should do.
My vote would be to go ahead. If it is white plastic, at least we wouldn't have to paint it.

gotnitro · May 26, 2009, 08:26:37 PM

depends we could buy the cheap stuff over and over agian. Or buy the plastic witch is made to take a slap shot and not break witch is in a cold enviroment that i would think make it easer to break. Also the plastic can be in any color i think. Really it comes down to the plywood boards are cheap and easy to replace, i have a saw for either material and paint for wood that is lying around our shop. Lets here what every one thinks on this... and get a work party going

haddow · May 26, 2009, 10:03:18 PM

that stuff is tough as nails, 1/4 inch would likely be perfect?

Shawn68z · May 26, 2009, 11:45:16 PM

Quote from: dajracer on May 26, 2009, 08:11:38 PM
Hey Shawn, were you "think"ing about not being too thick?
Blake, I only pay the bills. Whatever is the consensus is what we should do.
My vote would be to go ahead. If it is white plastic, at least we wouldn't have to paint it.

Thanks for decyphering my thoughts for me.

I had a operator malfunction between the brain, and the keyboard.

Shawn.

RC51 · May 27, 2009, 10:18:30 AM

Quote from: haddow on May 26, 2009, 10:03:18 PM
that stuff is tough as nails, 1/4 inch would likely be perfect?

We used this in Calgary for indoor racing years back. We only used it on the perimeter and PVC on the interior. Works very well. On a related note, I remember chatting with a work crew replacing escalator hand rails in Richmond. They had the rail coiled as they were installing the new stuff. I asked them what they did with the discarded stuff and they said it is simply disposed of. They also said that they had pallets of it that we'd be welcome to take. That was a couple of years back. Not sure if it would be worth it. May be hard to handle, it's black, and would likely only work on corners.

P.

Blake · May 27, 2009, 12:34:24 PM

Quote from: gotnitro on May 26, 2009, 08:26:37 PM
depends we could buy the cheap stuff over and over agian. Or buy the plastic witch is made to take a slap shot and not break witch is in a cold enviroment that i would think make it easer to break. Also the plastic can be in any color i think. Really it comes down to the plywood boards are cheap and easy to replace, i have a saw for either material and paint for wood that is lying around our shop. Lets here what every one thinks on this... and get a work party going

Well I would agree with Daryl: If this stuff will work, then let's go ahead with it. It does seem like 1/2" might be overkill (and not flexible), so if the 1/4" will work, and we have a method of cutting it and drilling the bolt-holes, then I'm happy to proceed. White would be the best choice I would think. We could even contract Mick to create us some Dekelz like he did for the Clik Trak.

Do we buy just a single sheet to test it, or just go crazy and get a bunch at once?

Blake

Blake · May 27, 2009, 12:39:51 PM

Also,

If it's decided to move forward with this (either a test sheet, or several sheets), I would be available for a cutting/drilling work party on Saturday.

Blake

WhoDoYouThink · May 27, 2009, 01:08:06 PM

As the club doesn't own one of those rechargeable drill/circular saw/you-name-it, ALL in one kits, I'd suggest we get one. I know Hitachi and many others sell them as I've seen them at Costco and around town.

We could buy 4 sheets of the 1/4 inch stuff in white, rip it down to 4 inches or 3 7/8ths inches wide, and use it for as many corners as we can.
We'd end up with 48, 8 foot long, 4 inch high walls sections that way. 384 linear feet, or 192 linear feet inside/outside walled. The more of those car catching, ugly fire hoses and ropes we can hide the better!

Or, we just buy the cheap plywood again. Either way, we NEED some new walls!
We could also do with a few more traffic cones while we're at it, like a dozen of them!
We have the money, so lets spend some of it!

gotnitro · May 27, 2009, 02:43:15 PM

I say we try a sheet first and go from there, what do you think.... its a big investment if its crap.

Tom · May 27, 2009, 04:31:39 PM

Quote from: gotnitro on May 27, 2009, 02:43:15 PM
I say we try a sheet first and go from there, what do you think.... its a big investment if its crap.

I 2nd the suggestion to try one sheet first -- this will give us practical experience with the material so that we can determine if we have selected an appropriate thickness. I'd expect the material is fine, it's the thickness that I would think is a bigger question.

Blake · May 27, 2009, 05:46:58 PM

Can we get a test sheet up and running by Sunday? I just checked, and Industrial Plastics is open on Saturday. Do we need a table saw with a special blade? Or just a circular saw?

Gerry, did you ask them if this stuff is currently in-stock?

Blake