Personal transponders

dajracer · December 14, 2009, 09:56:46 PM

MRT got back to me regarding their personal transponders. Here is their reply-

Thank you for your enquiry. You can purchase transponders
without sending in AMB transponders to be cloned, if you
order either the PTX R9981 or R9980 (tab case or no tabs)
they are supplied with a 'new' custom ID number which is
like buying a new PT. With the 'custom ID' PTX you plug
it in and use it exactly the same as a normal personal.
There are an additional 20 alternative stored numbers
that can be selected, the number the transponder is set
to when you receive it is written on the supplied sheet.

The price for 10 standard tab base (R9981) transponders
is £36.76 each (inc 5% 10+ quantity discount). Ordering
online is at www.rclaps.com with payment by PayPal or
by credit/debit card.

If you are interested in ordering a personal transponder, please reply on this thread. I will talk again on Saturday night regarding these. At the current exchange rate, they would cost $63.42/unit plus shipping and taxes.
I am guessing they will come in under $75.

Melbatoast · December 14, 2009, 10:25:29 PM

In for one.

WhoDoYouThink · December 14, 2009, 10:38:47 PM

Please put me down for one with tabs.

Regards,
Nick

Falcon · December 14, 2009, 11:24:57 PM

Darryl

I'm in for one w/tabs and at this time I would like to thank you and barb for the wonderful hostess gift. Barb can't stop talking about it and thank you for the recipes.

BigDawg · December 15, 2009, 12:20:32 AM

im in for one thanx

dajracer · December 15, 2009, 07:17:00 PM

So far-
Matt M.
Jamie
Doug
Ross
Nick N.
John
I am going to order next week, so I will confirm with other people Saturday night. But keep them coming.

BCbud · December 15, 2009, 08:42:16 PM

I am in for 1

Thanks Neil.

gotnitro · December 16, 2009, 12:37:54 AM

jeesh guys just one who will be running 2 cars next summer.

Danny · December 16, 2009, 01:44:12 AM

1 with tabs please

Blake · December 16, 2009, 03:13:48 PM

Is there a chance that these MRT transponders may end up "overlapping" with existing AMB transponders?

I mean, how does MRT guarantee that they don't sell a transponder with the exact same number as an AMB transponder? Did AMB sell some of the number space? Or, is MRT going against AMB's wishes and possibly conflicting with existing AMB personal transponder numbers already on the market?

I have done NO research on this, but I am kind of curious....

I'm guess that MRT is re-using AMB numbers, and the "work around" (when a conflict is found at the track between two racers) is to have one racer try another number in his/her MRT unit.

Anyone know for sure?

FYI: There are technically 10 million unique numbers in AMB's set, so maybe the likelihood of conflict is too small to care about.

Thanks,
Blake

Tom · December 16, 2009, 04:52:26 PM

I believe there are some reserved numbers that could not be transponder numbers in the AMB system. I seem to recall that leading zeroes weren't pemitted, among other restrictions.

So, if that were the case, it'd be only 9 million possible numbers, but I believe it's actually under 8 million possible numbers.

I'm not sure if that's a protocol issue, or just numbers AMB won't generate. Recall too that there will undoubtably be check-digits and the like to make it more difficult for people like MRT to come up with new numbers (in the same way it is difficult to invent a new credit card number). This scheme would further restrict the possible range.

My understanding is that MRT does not have permission from AMB to do any of this, but my knowledge of the MRT saga is quite dated. I can't get into much more details due to a NDA. . .

dajracer · December 16, 2009, 09:37:44 PM

New list-
Team Fantetti-3
Neil-1
John- 1
Matt M- 1
Danny- 1
Ross- 1
Nick N- 1
Jamie- 1
Doug- 1
Anybody else, Shane?

dajracer · December 16, 2009, 09:51:58 PM

In answer to Blake's questions, I found this on MRT's FAQ's page.

PTX ID Numbers
The PTX is available as individually numbered transponders(due to the AMB system having 'coded' ID numbers we cannotproduce new numbers, ID numbers are not guaranteed unique)the ID number of each transponder can be changed by use ofa 'setup' button (20 alternative ID numbers are available).Each individually numbered transponder has its 'custom' ID number written on the supplied instruction sheet with the20 alternative numbers also listed as two sets of 10 ID's.

Arch · December 16, 2009, 10:56:15 PM

YES one for me

Shawn68z · December 17, 2009, 12:21:09 PM

When I order transponders in the past from MRT, the transponders all had the same 20 codes on them, except for the Custom number, which was cloned from AMB's that I have already sent them in the past.

If you just order a transponder without having a AMB cloned, there is a good chance you will have problems with multiple people trying to use the same transponder code.

If anyone wants to see the manual, and or play with one, let me know I can come by the boys and girls, and let everyone check it out.

Shawn.