TC Spec or Not? for the Summer

[Gorden]

Moved from Buy & Sell

But to go back to brushed?  No thanks. I still have some brushed stuff kicking around, but it cant compete wiith a 17.5 brushless system. (even with no boost/turbo)

Not to go back. I was thinking about new members and if that's what they have all ready. So they would not have to buy new stuff to come out and have fun

GW

[BCbud]

Good day!

I pesonally like the spec tire as I would not need 4 compouds and 1 or 2 sets of each in my box. As for the racers that buy a new set every weekend or for that matter every race, so be it. I am not in the position to do that but I would buy 2 or 3 sets of a spec tire and be done for the year. Also, if we have a spec tire, the club could do an order and get a good price on them further reducing the cost and possibly I would be able to buy more than 2 or 3 sets for the year.

I also like the non boost for the same cost reason. The speedo is  less expencive, slower speeds = slower crashes = less parts broken = more drivers able to run in this class.

As always this is just my opinion on the subject, Neil.

[DekelzMan]

I don't know why you TC guys don't run a spec FOAM tire like a Nitro shoe since the traction is good when they're old or new, then get yourself some rubber tires for Big races. A waay cheaper way to club race don't you think?

[Shawn68z]

Good day!

I pesonally like the spec tire as I would not need 4 compouds and 1 or 2 sets of each in my box. As for the racers that buy a new set every weekend or for that matter every race, so be it. I am not in the position to do that but I would buy 2 or 3 sets of a spec tire and be done for the year. Also, if we have a spec tire, the club could do an order and get a good price on them further reducing the cost and possibly I would be able to buy more than 2 or 3 sets for the year.

I also like the non boost for the same cost reason. The speedo is  less expencive, slower speeds = slower crashes = less parts broken = more drivers able to run in this class.

As always this is just my opinion on the subject, Neil.

Here you go again with the spec tire thing.   Why would you need 4 compounds of rubber tire?  You need a set of 27's for the cold days, and 32's for the hot days.   Buy a new set for speedweekend and run them until the next speedweekend.   If you want to only have one tire in your tool box, make it some 32's. They work for almost all the weather we run.  You should not need more then 2 sets per season to be competative at the club level.

And most important of all, if you hit a board ONCE during a race, you probably dont need more then ONE tire compound (Sorex/Jaco 32s).

Speedos:   You can buy programmable Speedo's for $99.   To say the ESC's are cheaper is wronge. A Programmable ESC is a better investment.   If you would like to save yourself some money by running slower, then turn off your turbo, and drive the car within your capabilties.  When you are at the tail end of the C or D, you dont need a fast car. You need a car you can control.


What our club needs a is simple class (BOX STOCK 18R!)  For new drivers to run. They are cheap $200 RTR at Shaver, and darn near indestructable.  They should be a fun class, for kids and non competative drivers.

Cut down the qualifiers to 2 Quals, to make time for the 18R class.



Foam Tires:   For TC they seem to be dying out.  By running rubber, you dont need to worry about rollout, chunking, and compounds.


Shawn.

[jarrodH]

Foam Tires:   For TC they seem to be dying out.  By running rubber, you dont need to worry about rollout, chunking, and compounds.


Shawn.

front nitro shoes work great on a tc.. i used them a few times to run on carpet.. work great.. cheap and easy to find..and last forever ona electric car..

[Shawn68z]

Foam Tires:   For TC they seem to be dying out.  By running rubber, you dont need to worry about rollout, chunking, and compounds.


Shawn.

front nitro shoes work great on a tc.. i used them a few times to run on carpet.. work great.. cheap and easy to find..and last forever ona electric car..

  How many sets of rubber tires did you go through in a year?

Electric touring is a pretty cheap racing once you have the equipment.   Buying the chassis and the electronics is the expensive part, not the tires.   Besides who wants to setup their car to run Foam, so you can switch it back to run Rubber for acouple of events?  Doesnt sound logical to me.

Heck, even Foam on carpet has died off, and switched to rubber.

Shawn.

[jarrodH]

Well I may not be the best example,I make set last for atleast the summer and part of the next lol

[Tom]

Electric touring is a pretty cheap racing once you have the equipment.   Buying the chassis and the electronics is the expensive part, not the tires.

I disagree.

True, now that we can use brushless and lithium batteries, TCO for the powertrain has gone way down.  However, tires make a huge difference to the handling of a car.  To compete for the win, you are at a marked disadvantage if you're on tires with 4 runs on them; it's pretty hopeless if you're running tires with 10 runs.

Of course the compound makes a difference, as there are 1-run wonders, and there are 5 run wonders.  This is about the only way a spec tire rule would help us.

In my 25 or so years of racing, electric touring is the most expensive form of racing I've undertaken.

Cheapest, by far, is 1/12 scale.

[BCbud]

Good day!

Here you go again with the spec tire thing.   Why would you need 4 compounds of rubber tire?  You need a set of 27's for the cold days, and 32's for the hot days.   Buy a new set for speedweekend and run them until the next speedweekend.   If you want to only have one tire in your tool box, make it some 32's. They work for almost all the weather we run.  You should not need more then 2 sets per season to be competative at the club level.

So if 32's are good for most all the conditions that we race, why not make them spec? Then driving technique and car setup would be the adjustments to compinsate for conditions.

And most important of all, if you hit a board ONCE during a race, you probably dont need more then ONE tire compound (Sorex/Jaco 32s).

Please explane this, I realy do not know what you are trying to say.

What our club needs a is simple class (BOX STOCK 18R!)  For new drivers to run. They are cheap $200 RTR at Shaver, and darn near indestructable.  They should be a fun class, for kids and non competative drivers.

Cut down the qualifiers to 2 Quals, to make time for the 18R class.

Shawn.

I am all for an entry level class. My only concern would be with 4 classes and 20 or so drivers coming out to race, we could possibly be spreading out too thin and not have enough drivers per class to make it fun (racing top drivers with less experienced drivers).

Neil

[jarrodH]

neil, the point of shawns comment  was if you choose to run the softer compound, and you hit the boards once or twice, or get stuck once.. you now have lost more time than havin that alternative tire compound would have gained you.. so, for the majority of the club, me included, overall usually wont help..and they wear out faster.. so you will need to buy more tires

i agree with 32 tire as a spec tire, as most of the racers use it anyhow.. 

[BCbud]

neil, the point of shawns comment  was if you choose to run the softer compound, and you hit the boards once or twice, or get stuck once.. you now have lost more time than havin that alternative tire compound would have gained you.. so, for the majority of the club, me included, overall usually wont help..and they wear out faster.. so you will need to buy more tires

i agree with 32 tire as a spec tire, as most of the racers use it anyhow..

Thanks, that maks sense.

[Shawn68z]

Why not a spec tire? 

1) Making people throw out the tires they already own doesnt make racing cheaper.
2) Making a tire change for weather conditions is easier, then totally re-adjusting your car for a higher/lower temp.
3) Free - Market, why force someone to buy expensive Jaco's when you can buy an alternative for less money?

So if 32's are good for most all the conditions that we race, why not make them spec? Then driving technique and car setup would be the adjustments to compinsate for conditions.

I am all for an entry level class. My only concern would be with 4 classes and 20 or so drivers coming out to race, we could possibly be spreading out too thin and not have enough drivers per class to make it fun (racing top drivers with less experienced drivers).

Neil

Good day!

[BCbud]

Throw away tires, I know I would't do that no matter what happens, if anything. If a spec tire was introduced, why couldn't there be a grace period and who says it would need to be Jaco?

I have said enough, I think we have agreed to dis-agree and I will leave it at that.