List of part numbers and description for a 3.1

[RYY]

I am in constant need of new parts. I am looking for a parts list for an entire 1/12 scale car.  As a local boy I am better with pictures, does anyone know of an exploded picture including part names and CRC part numbers.  I would much prefer this as to trying to explain my much needed replacment part as," you know the thing that connect that to this and, you can break it sometimes but only when your new."
One other question I have is; If snow falls so quietly and almost without notice, then why is it we always ponderthe meaning of it all?
RYY

[Grinder]

Did you try the manual or the parts list?

You may also want to check with the stock setup sheet as well.

[RYY]

Kurk,
I had not looked under the manual section as I already had one, however the updated one on the website is great, thanx
RYY

[SgRddY]

I am looking to order up some parts directly from CRC.  I am having a heck of a time getting parts at the shaver shop.  Any suggestion?

[RYY]

Ken,
I just recieved a reply from John @ CRC.  He recommends we all continue to hound our local hobbyshop, so in turn they put pressure on their distributer ultimately forcing them to start stocking more CRC parts.  He said that if that was not an option then you can order direct on line from CRC.  He just seemed hesitant about suggesting the later?  I too am frusterated with the shaver shop, you would think with this many people running the carpet knife and comparable cars, that they would stock(atleast during the winter season)  quite a large, amount and variety of readily available parts!!  But they won't, so who know.  I did send John from CRC another few questions regarding shipping, so I will let you know how and when I make out.
RYY

[haddow]

John was hesitant to recommend ordering direct from CRC  because the hobby indsutry is setup to make ordering direct from a manufacturer or distributor "illegal". That is what keeps the LHS in business. I know poeple do it and we get screeming deals on certain products that I wont mention but that is not how it supposed to work.

It is exactly the reason I am reluctant to get parts for you guys. I usually only do it once per season just to fill the void. Garrnet doesnt exactly bend over backwards for us and it takes constant hounding to keep him honest and competative on his prices but we should make the effort as things have definatley imporved over the last 2 years.

[Grinder]

Correct me if I'm wrong but a lot of the stuff is from the Associated 12L.  Companies like www.hobbywholesale.com probably carry these parts (usaully cheaper than the LHS) with quick cheap shipping and no PST.  www.towerhobbies.com is another one that carries a lot of Associated stuff and their prices are often hard to beat especially with the US$ in the toilet.

I always try to support the LHS but I will not buy an item for 30 - 50% more than I can get it elsewhere which happens way too often at the Shaver Shop.  There is a price to pay for convenience but when a company like Hobby Wholesale will send me Nitro Shoes for $11 a pair right to my door in two days (pay no PST and $5 for shipping most stuff) and the Shaver shop wants something like $27 a pair I'm not going to buy them from the Shaver shop.  I'm also not gonna miss out on driving my car for three weeks because they can't get the parts in when I can get them in two days from a mail order shop in Canada.  That being said I still spend hundreds of $$ at the Shaver Shop on items that are 10% over what I can get them elsewhere just to support our LHS.  Like I said earlier there is also the convenience of getting it locally. Some competition would be nice to keep them sharp though....

I do think there should have been some foresight with the LHS and what the club is doing to ensure that an ample supply of parts for our upcoming changing seasons are available.  I know Jeff puts in an excellent effort in getting stock for what he thinks we will use but he is probably limited in what he can order blindly.  There really should be enough parts to build a complete car plus a wack of parts like suspension parts, body posts, etc that are often in need of replacing.

[haddow]

It takes alot of effort on Jeff's part and I honestly dont think Garnett gives a sheesh when it comes down to it. He would make the same amount whether IROCC existed or not. If his pricies were reasonable he would sell more because like you say everyone I know spends most of their dollars elsewhere because it is cheaper and faster. BUT it has improved lately. If it wasnt for Jeff and now Dave there would not be a single thing in the store to buy for racing.

I buy low-ticket items there and that is it,  anything over 50 bucks is usually a total rip off. A generalization but I think it is a relatively accurate statement.

Take the carpet knives he has in stock, a reasonable price (only becaue the local market for that car knows what they are worth) but check the "non-sale" sticker price just above the 300 dollar sticker. it is like 470 bucks or something, that little "pricing strategy" is such joke it isnt even funny. Wow 300 bucks what a great deal it should be almost 500, ooohh what a savings. Nightmare.

Garnett if you are reading this,.. well that is how I and most of the club feels, sorry. The airplane guys are in the same boat as well and spend their money elsewhere too. I know Garnett argues that he has to pay for shipping and this and that. Well I have to pay for shipping too and it is still cheaper for me to do it myself. The other thing is that if the Shaver shop orders 20 identicle items and it costs 10 bucks to ship them here that does not mean you try and recoupe the 10 bucks off of each and everyone of those 20 items which is how I feel it is being "handled". The stuff comes 4000 kms from Tiawan or Texas, is it really that much more for the extra 40 kms from Vancouver, no.

[limey]

the shaver shop has ordered about 8 full cars in parts over the past bit. including three weeks before the winter seson even started. the porblem is that the indoor season is started every where which buts a big drain on distrubitiers even big ones like Horizen. which is where shaver gets CRC as we do not have a canadian distributer after vancouver dropped CRC because it was to hard to keep in stock. All you first year 12th scaler's (kirk,ken,ryan) that are frustrated with parts availity right now welcome to the world of owning a CRC. You should have seen the back order list from horizen 8O , CRC make great products but at this time of year they are hard to come by. Correct me if I'm wrong but 2 weeks ago CRC didn't have all the parts to make up kits.  an example: we ordered 10 rear pod plates and they sent 1. we ordered 10 body posts they sent 2.  hopefully the CRC only order shaver sent to horizen (which is a big deal for the store as we usally order plane, train and auto) will be yield more luck.

as soon as the intaital rush is over usally end of oct- mid nov CRC will catch up on its back orders and your stuff will come flooding in

[limey]

I just want to clear up garrent second price tag thing. that amount is the US dollar MSRP that is on a invioce converted to CAN. Sometimes it turns out crazy. You should see the MSRP on a LST it made me choke.

[SgRddY]

Don't get me wrong here, all of us are spending hundreds of dollars at the LHS.  I know that you guys doing your best to keep this stuff in stock and I agree with Grinder 100% that there should be parts to rebuild car 10 times over.  I would rather buy the parts here if I ddn't have to pay 50% mark up on some of the items plus tax.  

I don't like when I have to go to Craig, Jody, Blake,... and everyone else asking for a small screw or part for the CRC.  If the LHS have them CRC parts in stock I would not have to do that after every race.  I am sure those guys don't mind but I don't feel too comfortable asking all the time.

I like the have the OEM parts on the car rather than jimmy something to make it work.  It sucks.  I will end up with a half ass car in a week or 2.

If we have the ability to order from CRC why not order some from them to get over this shortage at the moment.  It's not like we are not buying from the LHS again.  I already have my list made up.

[haddow]

I stand by my pricing issue with the LHS here it is too expensive, and even if the US MRSP price is such, leave it off the box, it is insulting to our intelligence. But Limey is correct about the parts availability issue that is out of the Shaver shops hand (in the CRC case), CRC gets behind every winter, no question. Dont try phoning there and if you get a reply from an email you are doing well. I love Frank and the boys but they get swampped every winter no denying that. They are so slow (with work) in the summer that it is hard to get part time staff who only want to work for 5 months in the winter. The other problem CRC has is that they have to farm out alot of parts to other manufactuers.

so for instance if they are missing red anodized 4/40 nuts which are about 2 cents each, kits cant go out so although CRC is to blame because it is their car it is usually the lack of a small part they have ordered 6 months or a year in advance that inhibits kits and parts from going to the distributors. I know that 30 days ago all back orders had been filled, they are behind again now but if a distributor told a LHS they couldnt get something recently, there were just passing the buck onto CRC as an easy excuse.

[Grinder]

I understand a shortage of CRC parts but not Associated arms, etc that work on the CRC... lots of shops have these parts available.  Its not like they are expensive to keep in stock either.  The lower A-Arms are less than $3 US...

Besides if you know the rush is coming for specialty or hard to get items order 6 months before....  its called planing...

[limey]

That MSRP price tag issue is one of those things that I will never understand WHAT IS THE POINT? rattles through my head when I have to put two price tags on something.  8O

[jarrodH]

and just to mention something that came up with a few racers during the summer that had their tires where out in about 2-3 racedays, thanks for the help with that. that was 70-80 $ down the toilet. each.