IMPORTANT CLUB VOTE - 12th Scale Motors

[Grinder]

Of course C and Lipo's would be my vote.... otherwise I say whatever 27T.  Its the luck of the draw with a club motor.  And if you think I'm gonna swap my club motor with Robs forget it - motor maintainance is an important factor here too.  Any 27T is fine as the last thing I need is ANOTHER stock motor.  I'm gonna have to get a storage unit for them at this rate.....

[Arch]

 My vote is A ,it's fun and challanging to have to tune a motor to perform.Not just give up and throw it in the ever increasing "stock motor '' collection and buy something else that someone said might have been fast at some point.
And Doggie......the the only thing delusional is your confidence in your own racing skills.LOL .....feel the burn.....

[BigDawg]

im might feel the burn when i get this nitro fuel out of my eye from racing sunday!what class were you racing on sunday again?

[Shawn68z]

My Vote= (A+B)*!C

Shawn

[Tom]

My Vote= (A+B)*!C

Does that mean A v B?

Or, a more common representation A|B or A||B?  I think the idea is it's supposed to be a mutually exclusive choice.

Based on my enjoyment of many years of racing, A gets my vote.  I'd really like to see an option D up there, which is handout DC or any AC motor, and that would get my vote if it were an option.

[DekelzMan]

This post is not about the motor decision but just a quick observation regarding the battery choices we have.

Just for the heck of it I decided to grab my 3 remaining packs from last indoor season and take a few voltage readings. Just to be clear, I didn't put any charge in these packs prior to the storing them for the summer, just left whatever was in them after the final races.

It should be no surprise that my one pack of IB4200 had all 4 cells read zero volts. The two packs of EP4200s had all cells reading between .85 and 1.15v, and the two 4 cell packs of EnerG 4600's I picked up for the Kamloops race in the Spring all had over 1.1v each.

I did a cycle on the four remaining packs charging them at 6 AMPS and discharging at 35 AMPs. The 4200 packs both accepted around 4300mah and the 4600s both accepted more than 4600 according to my Futaba charger.

It appears to me that the stability issues have been somewhat taken care of at least. All that aside, I'm not looking forward to having to deal with the usual regimen of maintenance on these things after having such a carefree summer with the LiPos. It'll be interesting to see what comes up a year from now regarding 1/12th chassis, LiPos and Brushless...

Mick

[Shawn68z]

My Vote= (A+B)*!C

Does that mean A v B?

Or, a more common representation A|B or A||B?  I think the idea is it's supposed to be a mutually exclusive choice.

Based on my enjoyment of many years of racing, A gets my vote.  I'd really like to see an option D up there, which is handout DC or any AC motor, and that would get my vote if it were an option.

(A OR B) AND NOT C


Unfortunately I dont have a lot of knowledge on how a 17.5 compares in real world to a 27T, so out of fear of the unknown, I would like to see everyone run a 27T.   It keeps things less expensive too.



Blake:

If you want an exlusive vote then I have to go with 'B'.   


Shawn.

[Falcon]

I (officially vote) for option A.

[freddie]

A is my vote

[Westcoastdrifter]

I vote for option C... I love the efficiency of brushless and the run times...

[Shawn68z]

The only problem with this vote is: 

A gets 10 votes,
B gets 10 votes,
C gets 11 votes.

C wins. 2/3 of the club is un happy.   I think the vote should be more like the aussie's  voting system where everyone HAS to vote in the order which they like the best.  First choice gets 3 points, second choice is 2 points, and last choice 1 point.   I know its more complicated but you wont tick off 2/3 of the club.

If brushless does turn out to be fast then what?  Do we start adding weight?   


Just a thought.

Shawn.

[Gorden]

I voted for C for two reasons

1: I have 3 new stock motors just waiting for indoor racing
2: If I want to use a 17.5 I will have that option

I ran the 17.5 around the track a few times and I think a 27 turn would be a bit faster. But I may not have had it geared right also look at the size of the
GTB ESC compared to a GTX ESC.


The guys who are fast will always be fast no matter what why we end up going.

-=light=-

[Shawn68z]

I voted for C for two reasons

1: I have 3 new stock motors just waiting for indoor racing
2: If I want to use a 17.5 I will have that option

I ran the 17.5 around the track a few times and I think a 27 turn would be a bit faster. But I may not have had it geared right also look at the size of the
GTB ESC compared to a GTX ESC.


The guys who are fast will always be fast no matter what why we end up going.

-=light=-

Size of the brushless system isnt the problem. Its the weight of the brushless could make it a disadvantage. Or it could help by offering more grip on the rear axle.

The problem is when the fast guys get faster cars, they become _REALLY_ fast. I am not worried about the guys that constantly bash the boards. The quicker they go the faster they break their car. I am more worried about keeping close to brian, phil, kurk, tom, craig and mick. If they run a 17.5, and its clearly faster, then instead of being 1 or 2 laps behind, i will be 3 or 4.  Last year 1/12 was completely new to me, and it took me all season to figure out how to drive the car, and make it work properly. This year I want to race, and the person winning should be the best _DRIVER_.

Shawn.


Shawn.

[Gorden]

the person winning should be the best _DRIVER_

I agree with this but if we run a club motor it falls back into two areas

1st  who can drive
2nd who can tune a motor

[gotnitro]

isnt that what racing is all about. Plus im sure if you asked someone in the club to look at your motor they would not have a problem.