Heat Setup

[OX]

I think a drivers car should cross the start line under it's own power at least once during the Main event to collect the points for last place in that Main race.

We should only get points for a show in the Main, no points for heats.

It would be interesting to get points for each heat race in addition to the Main event points... wouldn't that mix things up a bit :-) and let's give some points out for most specatular crash! and extra points if your motor starts on fire during a race or your batteries blow-up on the track, and deduct points for bad mouthing corner marshals too! lol

[kukkiyukkuk]

Hahah its Chris

And Tom i dunno how well this would work but median would be the best way possible because then in a couple weeks u wont have craig blake and jody trying to qualify outta the D :S I think it should go towards Median but find a way to maybe keep the bump up in that heat seeing how they earned it. But that throws a whole new form of difficulty into preparing the heats but by going by medians it throws alot more difficulty to advance from D,C, or B either way u go theres gonna be complications aswell as likes and dislikes.  Personally i have no idea whatsoever lol cause its either race in main u finished in (then have some days when a A racer is away or even a B or whatever have to qualify from the D) or use the median have much more averaged and much more competitive heats but then finishing order may become repition because it would be more difficult to bump up and remain.

[haddow]

Well if we have decided (or do decide) that a person who qualifies gets last place points in the main they qualified for in a main they dont start then I think we should, to be consistent and keep it simple, also use that points paying spot they "earned" as a seeding position for the next weeks heat setup. IMHO of course.

[kukkiyukkuk]

Also I believe there shoudl be restrictions for instance if it is a completely legitament excuse u are unable to make the main but still remain and play ur part (if possible ie no family emergency, explosive diarrhea and so on.) Otherwise i believe u should be awarded a zero if there is no justification for ur missing the main.

hey Dave, how many points for a motor fire?

[kukkiyukkuk]

Yea I wanna know trhe deduction for cursing at a corner marshal!!

[haddow]

After rethinking the "not starting a main thing", there comes another case that if we said OK you dont start the main then you finish at the very bottom of the entire pack (which part of me thinks is the truely fair option since we onlyt divide the races up because we cant start all 30 cars on the track at once)...here is the scenario.

Say I for family reasons, cant stay all night at racing and have to leave after the 3rd qualifier but I still wanted to come out, support the club and have some fun. So I leave before the mains, i would be OK with getting last place OVERALL..except if that is the case in points does that mean I would have to be seeded in last spot in the D Heat for the next week because I happen to be a B or A level driver but had to leave the race for any of a 1000 valid reasons.

I like the idea of not starting the mains gives you last overall but dont like the idea that it would by default seed you last overall in the next weeks heats.

So giving out points based on your qualifying effort or placing you at the bottom of the pack has both pros and cons, just like every other aspect of this debate.

[haddow]

Hey Everybody

Your boss called and said he needs you to do a little work today at some point LOL

why do today what you can put off till tommorow

[haddow]

well this is probably what I will do tomorrow too. hehehe

[WhoDoYouThink]

Like I said, I don't think I should receive any points for last weekend's race, as I didn't run a main.
Like I said, I was lucky to even get a half ass qualifier in!

And as far as I know, we don't receive anything for qualifying or for that matter, get any sort of bonus if you happen to win all 3 qualifiers.

Further to that, if anyone has a complaint about me not sticking around, or they feel I'm not contributing, then be sure to bring it up in person this weekend and we will discuss it further.

Regards,
Nick

[OX]

Doug, it depends on the severity of the motor fire as to how many points you get.

50.3 pts for large explosion with spectator injurys
30.1 pts for billowing toxic smoke resulting in vomiting corner marshals
22.9 pts for medium sized carpet fire

Painted on flames don't count.


Dave Ox.

[OX]

kukkiyukkuk, deduction for cursing at corner marshal:

You lose one throw out night and you get one free thrownout the door night :-)

[Grinder]

There is a problem from both sides (E or D main to the A main) when someone is placed poorly because of last week's placement and/or poor qualifying.

Take for instance this summer when Jody was running in the D main with us because of his poor qualifying.  The guys in the D have no chance (other than Jody breaking or continuing to suck) of getting first in the race because they are running with an B main driver - uh A main.  Jody is probably frustrated because he has had a cruddy day of qualifying as his car broke 27 times that day (or he got his left/right mixed up again).  The idea of having different heats is to have you race against guys (and hopefully girls too one day!) at your level.  When an over qualified driver with bad luck is in your heat it takes any competition away from the drivers in that heat and some of the fun.

I think a similar situation happens when you bump down a driver into a heat he normally wouldn't drive in.  Its not as drastic with a bump down one heat.  There is a significant level of difference in the heats and it would be frustrating for someone like Nick who runs in the A and B mains to be running in the C where there is little competition.  Granted its only for the qualifying but the way we run our qualifiers makes racing as fun and competative as a mains race (IFMAR bites!)  When you put someone who is obviously more qualified it takes some of the fun out of it.

I think the median is the easiest way to do it.  Personally I'd rather run where I ran the week before rather than my median.  For example when I first started with the touring cars in the summer I was bouncing off the boards, etc.  Then I started getting a little better and found I was able to run in the C mains.  Problem was I was often stuck in traffic or someone would keep going hard into the corner behind me and then through me.  When I managed to get into the C mains I wanted to stay there because I knew I had the skill to run in the C but since I had run so long in the D my average would pull me back down there where I would have to fight with traffic again.  Of course fighting with traffic is a good way to learn to drive but it can take some of the fun out of racing.  For guys coming up through the ranks its nice to have "earned" your spot in the heat above you.  Of course as you get better you will average your way out but there is more frustration with that method.  Just something you guys who run in the A all the time might not have thought about....  Thankfully its just for the qualifiers and not the main itself.  Like I said thought the median is probably the easier more trouble free way of doing it though.