IMPORTANT CLUB VOTE - 12th Scale Motors

[BigDawg]

you can say what you want ,what ever helps you sleep at nite!no one packs up in the middle of a trophy race weekend just out of the blue for absolutly no reason other than you were raced out,theres no shame in just admitting that we dont always see them as toy cars!

[DekelzMan]

ROFL

I'm definitely not saying I'm above that, if you have any passion for racing you will get frustrated. Thats human nature. Anyway, this discussion is waay off thread now. We can discuss psychosis in a another discussion

[Arch]

  The times are a changin,I remember something like this happening to the club in the early to mid 90s.
   

[Tom]

  The times are a changin,I remember something like this happening to the club in the early to mid 90s.   

...And you have heard my opinions on how to help the situation, and the last few posts prior to this seem to add weight to it...

[haddow]

  The times are a changin,I remember something like this happening to the club in the early to mid 90s.   

...And you have heard my opinions on how to help the situation, and the last few posts prior to this seem to add weight to it...

ya its a shhitpile easier not to put stuff to a damn vote. The exec can quietly tear itself apart behind stage rather than let the general population eat itself live on national TV so to speak. The exec puts WAAAAYYYY more consideration into each and every decision than they will ever get credit for. Our decisions will never be able to make everyone happy. Once a few people are unhappy with an exec decsion then they become a squeeky wheel on the forums here, demand more issues go to the polls and guess what, everyone is still not happy, never will be. We can only try our best, not be perfect.

Jody

[BigDawg]

the executives do an awsome outstanding job!!and the club does just as good at complaining about the decisions they make!.and even better at showing up to race.keep it up ,12 scale is gonna be a great season

[gotnitro]

Dog you have something brown on your nose.lol

[WhoDoYouThink]

Don't you just love it when the Executive gives you all the choice! LOL
Now you know the hair pulling, eye gouging, nail biting and arguing that goes on when we try to do what we think is best for everyone involved! 

Well, we opened another can of worms now didn't we!

For the life of me, I can't accurately remember what we as the Executive voted for, or what the final head count was on the decision we arrived at.

I re-read what Kurk said:

"I think when it comes down to it its nice to hear what everyone would like and all their varried and coloured opinions but the final say should as always be with the Exec.  I'm sure they deliberated for a long time over what to do and they've managed to help guide this into probably one of the best R/C clubs in the world - yea the world my friends  "


Perhaps Thomas, IROCC's acting Secretary,  can refresh my memory of what the Executive decided that night at Boston Pizza.

[Arch]

NOTHING! I was there,fumeing.It was a waste of my time and breath.I pleaded to make it more affordable ,more competetive and it all fell on deaf ears.Too many self interested opinions to make a decision.All this talk of testing and research on the various technologies is bunk.Put in your Nimh ,slam in a stock motor ,then shut up and race!We are really making more difficult than it is .The time for research was in the summer,Leave 12th scale(a jewel in it self)alone.I read a post earlier about running too many classes watering down the racing leaving stock classes out in the cold as an ENTRY class.The eveidence is just across the pond in Van.We are/were the best club in the world for a reason,wake up before its too late.
           I reserve the right to rant on this forum,cause thats what its for.shheeeesh.

[BigDawg]

Too many self interested opinions to make a decision.

just wondering why your opinion isnt as self interested as everyone elses?

[Arch]

 To try and keep cost down is not self interest.It benefits all involved,not just me.In all truth I took one of the Execs advice to stop coming out if I couldnt afford it .Talk about good solid club building advice.Tired of fighting for equality.

[RC51]

Cost? My esc, motor and Lipo cost less than I spent on batteries alone last year. Investing in brushless, a brushed/brushless esc, and LiPo is a solid investment in both the near and longer term. It was paid for by selling the old stuff. It can be done and it can save you money in one single season.

The real worry sounds like the potential for performance advantage through LiPo and brushless which hasn't borne out on the track this year, has it? If it's not "fear-of-being rendered-slower-than-the-guys-I-used-to-beat" based, then what is the worry? Cost? BTW, at the ROAR indoor champs this last season, a brushed motor won the stock rubber class in a field of brushless motors. Using LiPo clearly saves money, too, so what is all the worry about?

For motors:

A=most expensive
B=less expensive
C=less expensive and gives people the opportunity to try something new IF they feel like it, even though there is no performance advantage.

No threat, no sweat.
P.

[BigDawg]

i agree,cost can not be the problem! a brushless system has saved me enough to buy a new pan car compared to last year! just brushes alone! 3.50 a pair per sat  all winter will pay for my motor!how can that not be keeping the cost down?and if a guy had to buy an esc(mabye he fried his) a brushed /brushless isnt really anymore than i paid for my first q2.........

[BigDawg]

not to mention if we go A then i have to spend more and buy a new club motor!-more money spent! or we could do B and i could use one i already have-or C like i already said brushless will save me enough in brushes to pay for a brushless motor! would seem to me A is the most expensive choice! so what was your point again shane?

[Shawn68z]

i agree,cost can not be the problem! a brushless system has saved me enough to buy a new pan car compared to last year! just brushes alone! 3.50 a pair per sat  all winter will pay for my motor!how can that not be keeping the cost down?and if a guy had to buy an esc(mabye he fried his) a brushed /brushless isnt really anymore than i paid for my first q2.........

Swapping brushes every weekend is a waste.. I am on my 4th set of brushes this summer in my TC.   I normally run them for about 4 weekends before changing them. I do cut the comm every week though, and re-seat the brushes. 


For in door carpet last winter, I believe I changed my brushes once, and that was out of boredom.

Shawn.